The national president of the Central Trade Union Independent and Officials (CSIF) Miguel Borra is this Tuesday in Extremadura within a regional tour to address the situation of the public sector. It emphasizes tackling temporality and the scarcity of human resources and puts the effect of the pandemic in perspective: “it has put the seams of the system to the limit because there was a previous problem,” he notes.
-Come to Extremadura to address with the president of the Junta de Extremadura the main problems in public employment. What are they?
-There is a very serious problem of temporality and precariousness in all administrations. The shortage of human resources with which we have had to face this pandemic has put the seams of the system to the limit and not only in Health or Education. We have seen it in the residences or in the general administration with the difficulties of the SEPE or the Social Security to cover the different subsidies.
– Temporality seems to be already an endemic evil in the labor market in general.
-It is that we have public employment areas with 40% temporary employment. The General State Administration has content in almost all areas, but that does not happen in the autonomous administration in sectors such as health or education or in the case of local administration.
-To stop this temporality, it seems that there is already a draft of the government that raises limiting it to 3 years. What do you think?
-It’s a nonsense. It is a proposal that does not provide any type of solution for the temporary staff that exists at the moment and we must not forget that there are more than 800,000 people in Spain in this situation. Nor does it prevent that temporality from being abused, because that is achieved by sanctioning the administrations that have incurred in it and the only thing it says is that each administration will decide how to sanction itself, something that is unacceptable. Instead of punishing the administration, the interim is punished for spending 3 years in the same position, because he will cease and that position cannot be used in one year. There is the paradox that if the administration fails to comply, the sanction is for the worker, who will have to stop working and is denied the right to a professional career to a hypothetical compensation.
-One of every three public employees in Extremadura has a temporary contract. Should they be worried about their future?
-The hypothetical modification of article 10 of the EBEP (Basic Statute of the Public Employee) wants to be carried out by the Government by Royal Decree throughout the month of June. It is not retroactive and therefore would not affect the people who are in that situation at the moment but those who come. But there is a lot of mobility and as the modification is proposed, the problem will not be solved. And it is clear that the interim cannot now also be the pagan of this situation
It is difficult to solve from today to tomorrow a problem that has been generated for so many years
-Europe has issued several warnings about the abuse of temporality. Why has it not been addressed until now? Is it an economic problem?
-More than an economic issue, it has been political. There have been no replacement rates for many years and the administrations have not been willing to take out all the positions they should to have stable workers and the ball has increased. But the problem has been created by public administrations and precarious workers are suffering from it. And with another added problem, that when an issue overflows everything, the rest of the issues are being parked and now issues such as internal promotion, performance evaluation or professional career are parked. Everything is a question of political will.
-But where do you have to start according to you? What model do you propose to give stability to the interns who are already in place and how should one prevent these situations from perpetuating themselves?
-We must prevent this from happening again and that means that civil administrative or criminal penalties must be established for administrations that fail to comply; we must give legal certainty to the solutions that are adopted and we cannot go to selective processes unrelated to jobs. It is a complex problem, the first thing is to sit down and put the cards on the table because it is difficult for everyone to be satisfied with a problem that affects 800,000 people, but we must try to make it as large as possible.
-All this does not seem to give an immediate solution to the problem.
-It is impossible to solve from today to tomorrow a problem that has been generated for many years and even more so when it is going to involve many administrations, but what the Ministry of Territorial Policy and Public Function has to do is set clear guidelines.
-In the pandemic There have been situations of collapse in health or in services such as the SEPE with the management of the ERTEs.
-The problem has been evident in the pandemic, but before we already had that lack of resources and it was seen in the waiting lists or in Primary Care in the case of health. As for the SEPE, it is true that there were millions of efforts by ERTEs, but it is that the SEPE has lost 3,000 jobs in the last 10 years, has 8,000 workers for all of Spain of which 2,000 are temporary and work with computer systems that They are 30 years old. The flood of ERTEs could not be foreseen but it is clear that there was a problem.
-Telework also caught the administration with the changed foot in the pandemic, has the model been duly consolidated?
-Telework is here to stay and an agreement has been reached that we value positively because it reflects the voluntary and reversible nature of telework and that guarantees that citizens can be attended in person if they wish. The problem has been that not all administrations started from the same degree of development to undertake this change and as an example are the computer systems of the SEPE with three decades.
-Is the increase reported in the average age of the squads an added problem?
-It is the consequence that for years jobs are lost that are not recovered without being covered with competitions-oppositions. Those new people who enter the administration are the ones who in the end would lower the average age of the workforce.
Eddie is an Australian news reporter with over 9 years in the industry and has published on Forbes and tech crunch.